i think we can use a smaller footprint, use air power, put a no-fly zone over syria, go in and seize those. there are four or five primary locations, and they are scattered about, but seize those locations with the smaller force and destroy those weapons in place. that is a complex operation, but we do not want to get involved with counterinsurgency, nation building or anything like that. but we will have to tell bashar al-assad that he will go down if he goes any further, because once we put a no-fly zone over syria they are finished. and it's very easy for us to put a no-fly zone over there, ali, as well as to project a nato quick reaction force, because it's right next to turkey, a nato member, and that could be accomplished very quickly. >> reporter: i've also heard other experts say that were bashar al-assad to use chemical weapons he would instantly become an international pariah. what do you think the likelihood of this is? >> well i think he's an international pariah right now, and that probably will not stop him. it will have an impact, and clearly where he can seek asylum i